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As I listen to the boom-boom celebration of the US's birthday, I don't feel the meaning behind it all, in fact I feel sad and I wonder what Native Americans think of this day.

This country gained independence from the British and claimed a land mass as their own, while ignoring or cheating or moving or killing the indigenous people that lived here. I'm second generation, my grandparents came here from the Middle East to to escape being massacred. Does any country gain independence without steamrolling over another culture and millions of people?

I'm not sure "independence" is the right word for a country. The US isn't under another country's thumb, but financially don't we belong to China?  And aren't the corporations calling all the shots?  And don't we find ourselves in the position of fighting for rights that are being threatened, like woman's health care, social security, a living wage, workers rights, healthy food and water, etc etc etc...?

It seems like once the initial independence is won, it all turns to shit, because the power has simply shifted. Power corrupts, they say. Why do people want it so much? How do I, in my own life, seek power? I don't want to, that's for sure.

I don't believe in nationalism, I think it's racist and ignorant. I'm glad I grew up here but it doesn't make me better than anyone else. There are other countries my people wouldn't have been killed that I could have grown up in. We don't even know where everyone went. Some went to France.

Sure I like fireworks and parties, but I don't know what this day really means anymore. I've outgrown the spin. Most of us believe in the idealism and ideas of this nation, but the US today isn't what Ben and Thomas had in mind, in my opinion.

Date: 2011-07-05 06:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dadadadio.livejournal.com
I understand your sentiment. Growing up in a former colony, living one mile from the site of the first strike against the British, I take pride in what happened in the 1770's. Breaking free of a foreign power is a big deal.

What happened since then is a different story. American jingoism is not something I'm proud of. Given our liberal democratic ideals, we can do better.

I have nationalist views on some issues. For example, I think we need to take care of our people before we send money overseas, especially our support of corrupt regimes who ignore human rights for their own people.

The world is complicated. It would be a challenge to name one nation, a single race or ethnic group without a stain in their history. Humankind has been in conflict since the first tribes bumped into each other. Every culture has had oppressors and warriors, often in position of power.

America is no better, or worse.

Tonight we watched the fireworks in Tempe. English was a second language where we viewed the festivities. People still flock to America in search of liberty.

That alone is worth celebrating.

Date: 2011-07-05 07:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yummydeb.livejournal.com
Does any country gain independence without steamrolling over another culture and millions of people?

I doubt it. And the 'winners' always are the ones who write history, generally turning it into RAH RAH WE ROCK. :-(

Nationalism makes me nuts. I don't like it at ALL, and I've always hated patriotic flag waving (in any country). I love what American could be and despair over what it is/has become.

I often wonder what the Founding Fathers would think...

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