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As I listen to the boom-boom celebration of the US's birthday, I don't feel the meaning behind it all, in fact I feel sad and I wonder what Native Americans think of this day.

This country gained independence from the British and claimed a land mass as their own, while ignoring or cheating or moving or killing the indigenous people that lived here. I'm second generation, my grandparents came here from the Middle East to to escape being massacred. Does any country gain independence without steamrolling over another culture and millions of people?

I'm not sure "independence" is the right word for a country. The US isn't under another country's thumb, but financially don't we belong to China?  And aren't the corporations calling all the shots?  And don't we find ourselves in the position of fighting for rights that are being threatened, like woman's health care, social security, a living wage, workers rights, healthy food and water, etc etc etc...?

It seems like once the initial independence is won, it all turns to shit, because the power has simply shifted. Power corrupts, they say. Why do people want it so much? How do I, in my own life, seek power? I don't want to, that's for sure.

I don't believe in nationalism, I think it's racist and ignorant. I'm glad I grew up here but it doesn't make me better than anyone else. There are other countries my people wouldn't have been killed that I could have grown up in. We don't even know where everyone went. Some went to France.

Sure I like fireworks and parties, but I don't know what this day really means anymore. I've outgrown the spin. Most of us believe in the idealism and ideas of this nation, but the US today isn't what Ben and Thomas had in mind, in my opinion.

Date: 2011-07-05 07:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yummydeb.livejournal.com
Does any country gain independence without steamrolling over another culture and millions of people?

I doubt it. And the 'winners' always are the ones who write history, generally turning it into RAH RAH WE ROCK. :-(

Nationalism makes me nuts. I don't like it at ALL, and I've always hated patriotic flag waving (in any country). I love what American could be and despair over what it is/has become.

I often wonder what the Founding Fathers would think...

Date: 2011-07-06 12:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] openscarf.livejournal.com
Really! We have to search and study to learn the whole history of each "segment" we were taught in school don't we? I'm still surprised when I learn something new about "history." I don't like being brainwashed.

Men and their pissing contests!! (Sorry good intelligent men friends out there) :-)

Date: 2011-07-06 12:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dadadadio.livejournal.com
The "What would our founding fathers think?" question has been asked many times and the answers usually conform with the ideology of the person answering. In many cases right wingers and lefties see the founders in the same light as they see themselves.

As a native of New England and one who loves our revolutionary history, I loathe the use of Tea Party by the right wing. I believe they've completely missed the point of what happened in Boston and the colonies.

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